there's so much speculation about sunday's meeting at the white house. president obama and john boehner, mano y mano, eric cantor wasn't there nobody else in the room with him. and what does it mean, if anything? >> i think it means that they're at least talking and neither of them came out afterwards and said, you know, we're -- there's no chance for a deal. i think the less we hear in terms of a deal being made, the better. the fewer the leaks the fewer the complaints. the more the likelihood we get a fiscal cliff agreement at some point. there's still obviously the chance we go off the cliff. i think that's pretty unlikely to come to some arrangement on the tax increases. offset by entitlement reforms. the big question is what would democrats agree to and can the president bring them all along? he had that conversation with harry reid from air force i yesterday, i believe. which is significant in the sense that if we believe he's now trying to craft some sort of compromise deal, the democrats will accept, that we'll have some changes to social securit